She had four children. She answered the follow up question and confirmed her understanding of the arrival time. After her sophomore year she dropped out to marry Robert Moses Peaslee. It was the general consensus at the end of '69/start of '70 that the prosecution had a very weak case. Q (by Bugliosi). Crucially, Sadie came out, spoke, watched Tex hit Wogiciech then ran back in again. Maybe around the middle of the night. If she was serious about half of what she said on it, she wouldn't have tried to avoid arrest. It was through Charles Melton that she came into contact with Catherine Gypsy Share, a member of Manson family. In his testimony Clem part corroborated Linda's account and Susan part did to both Richard Caballero and the Grand jury and then later when she was writing her books.and yet, when one looks at where that apartment was, it seems like another kill two birds with one stone job. Now, when you say the middle of the night do you mean 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning or do you mean midnight? [STOP right here! I have for the past many years looked at these crimes from the prospective of how I might have handled the defense. I also don't think it let's Manson 'off the hook'.Then again if Van Houten really wanted to cut holes in her shirt for her elf wings maybe a bottomless pit with a secret magical realm, living there for 100 years and growing to 144,000 souls was part of it. People who developed life long drinking and smoking weeds habbits as 15 and 16 year old's with no steady parental influence. The reasons why she did so make for an interesting set of discussions but are essentially secondary to me.I use positive phrases for all kinds of people that have done awful things because there is no such a thing as someone totally bad or totally good. And to ziggy, Lynne penny and the rest you are welcome and thank you your comments mean a lot and inspire me. (Inaudible) me screaming. Exact chronology and constant detail rarely happens, even in nice things we describe. This guy said she carried a knife eith her at all times linda was still frightened of manson family finfing her. Goddamn I am tripping back to like 1998. By 1980 50% of marriages had/were ending in divorce. But I can't see that all of the chronology matters. Hey, there are some similarities to Manson. Like how about BILL Clinton. The involvement of Susan and Gypsy in the Shorty affair has come to light too. Saint- I commend you for your deletions. Linda basically went through a couple of year speed bump in the Big picture. That makes Ms. Kasabian (as the key witness) a bit of pet project of mine. Because certainly the message couldn't be, "sorry you're in jail bud, but we kicked started a global race war last night". Many thanks to you, Dreath. You shouldn't stop- that is fascinating stuff Saint, I just watched that. Clearly, in his eyes he is as highly qualified to judge as God. But the people who count are the ones who did the crime. Sure, I see all that but what are the statistics for us on this site related to those issues? She was in search of love, freedom and God. But here you go. Later, in an effort to give their marriage another chance, she joined Robert Kasabian in Hippie Hangouts of Topanga Canyon, Los Angeles, California where he was friends with Charles Blackbeard Melton. No other reason." You don't agree. The same night, Manson instructed Linda Kasabian to take part in killing of actor Saladin Nader herself. More weight does not necessarily make it right or definitive.That said, quoting various bods is more for the interest of seeing exactly what they did say about certain of the incidents/matters we're all discussing and sometimes providing illumination.If Watson is attacking Voytek..And Krenwinkel is chasing AbigailAnd then Sadie came running out of the house, Who was watching Sharon Tate?No one. Linda was instructed to go back to the front gate and stand guard while the others went into the residence. AND Paul Watkins, who KNEW Charlie INTIMATELY said: "The Black Muslims will prevail in the final Black and White battle. She down plays her Boston arrest by saying she was present where narcotics were present (technically correct) but wouldn't it have been fun to have a few more details for the jury: a fed/state narcotics raid involving 20k worth of LSD? That is exactly what Leslie Van Houton was charged and CONVICTED forYeah, despite Bugliosi saying in his closer:"One thing is abundantly clear. St Circumstance saidit just seems strange to me that nobody is willing to consider it at all, as even a possibilityI'm not nobody !Do you not think there is a difference between a person like Ruth who was 15 when her father starting using hard drugs with her and in front of her, and encouraging her to have sex with older strangers WINDING UP hanging around the wrong crowdAnd a single mother like Linda who has parents willing to help her stay out of trouble and encourage her not to be in trouble yet consistently throughout her life CHOOSES to be with the wrong crowd??? Did Bugliosi actually use any scenario that did not come from someone else ? I read this post and it clearly paints a picture to me that maybe others see differently. But..What I meant was that she said Tex told her to get Steven's wallet. In a 2009 docu-drama by Cineflex, she elaborated her story for the first time in detail. Just give us something that casts aside every other piece of evidence that went into the patchwork that eventually made up the case.It'll need to be substantial though.because NONE of them said anything about what took place after LaBianca, until Kasabian got her deal. It was dark for 4 or 5 hours, after it had been dark.Q. Manson Blog Locates and Interviews Son of Clyda Dulaney! Linda and Robert had a daughter named Tanya in 1968. Who you are is determined by what you do when you get back up.". ?Then she walks and spends the rest of her live breaking the law and partying wit her own child who she breaks laws with.Human side? That's about all I have to say. This was a great post and very interesting. She droved straight to New Mexico, where her husband was living with another woman. I know that "the human side" is used to denote the lean towards goodness, softness, something of redeeming value. document.write(''); One gunshot would have sufficed. As long as that question hung in the air unanswered, the jury would have a hard time believing Linda Kasabian and Bugliosi's claim that out of all these people who were fully ready, willing and able to murder for Charles Manson, there was one out of the group who happened to be an angel who thought it was simply a "creepy crawl mission".Not only did he answer that question, there was an entire scenario where not only was she asked and had a weapon put in her hand, but one in which she also proved to be a hero and thwart the plan and save a life! Her testimony eventually led to their conviction. So what's your point ? So it's not as though there isn't some kind of precedent for stuff being revealed after the fact. Later in 2009, Cineflix Production Company tracked her down and in their docu-drama titled Manson she elaborated on what happened during her four week time with the Manson family. 2 facts will always remain, namely that Tonya was safe and returned safely and that Linda set out out to retrieve her and did so.even in the worst of circumstances- people can make their own fate / But not Linda. Now taken into considering the location this apparently took place. In HS Bugliosi more or less says the same thing. However, problems between the young couple led Linda and Tanya back to New Hampshire. Manson Blog Shines Light on Sassy Bottoms! Robert Hendrickson saidI wonder IF her previously hidden past was NOT fairly typical for many young folks brought up in almost meaningless environments all across America IF you actually take a peek behind the headlines - Oh what a different perspective you might findI think this is the case. While she has a husband who is knocking off some other woman and she's worried about her child. He said something to the effect that Charlie had a very strong case and that there was pretty much no evidence against him. Leslie Van Houten, 19, pleaded innocent to the murder of Mr. and Mrs. Leno LaBianca. Dreath saidyou have a tendency to 'move the goal posts' which makes responding to you rather difficultIf by that you mean that I seem to jump around on the subjects and quotes I'll comment on, that's true. Her parents divorced and remarried when Linda was still young. It means nothing more. He also said that what was needed was corroboration and that it didn't really matter who ended up as the star witness.It's true that he had little to no case against Leslie at that point, but Diane Lake changed that forever. You are all welcome. Linda Kasabian falls prey to the hypnotic charms of Charles Manson and his self-proclaimed "family" during the drug-fueled summer of 1969. Dreath saidI think what might have happened with Atkins instead of Kasabian is you might not be talking as much about Helter Skelter as a motivePossibly. There is an interesting quote from Fleischmann in an issue of the Free Press prior to Kasabian becoming the star witness. Thank you for this post- very interesting and thought provoking. I think it gives some fairly revealing insights into Kasabian's personality (disorder?) Afterwhich, Manson dropped Linda, Sadie, and Clem off at a Venice Beach apartment complex. // -->,