I can see that cool of the day can be also be breath, spirit, or wind. Adam and Eve loved to . 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.". This is very important to walk with god on this because if they didnt walk with god by keeping his commandments sabbaths and statutes then there would be no rain. I hope this helps. However, God did come physically to Abraham and ate. What is the one thing that He values the most, as we know it? That is, Enoch and Noah lived faithful lives. It doesn't say they viewed God with their eyes. Thank you so much. Its not hard at all to see that Adams and Eves sins broke the right standing they had with God. God walked with Adam and Eve in the Garden (Gen. 3:8). Sin Of Walking. . IOW, IMV Where Adam FAILED, Christ Jesus PASSED, *Saying all this Tim, I truly respect your thoughts and views as a brother in Christ. Like I mentioned before, I dont have a problem with the idea that they may have walked with God in the garden. First, we are told that God made man from the dust of the ground, and he didnt become a living being until God breathed the breath of life into him (Genesis 2:7). So is this one (post-Fall) verse sufficient to establish that God was in the habit of visiting with Adam and Eve in the Garden? The article is not imposing a narrow standard that makes no room for inference or implication. What do you think?? Thats right, you are right there with them from birth, not that they were made a baby first of course, as that would take other humans to raise them as we know it! The point of my post was not to condemn anyone who believes that they did. It seems likely that many people have just remembered some of the wording in this verse and assumed that it says Adam and Eve walked with God. The problem with this scenario is that Adam and Eve were almost certainly not in the Garden very long. Adam fell because he freely chose to disobey God, but second because he listened to his wife who had also freely chosen to disobey. for details. Adam was ashamed to stand before God as he was now a sinner who was about to face his righteous God. I would be with this item all day and be close to me at nite. Genesis 3:8, NLT: When the cool evening breezes were blowing, the man and his wife heard the LORD God walking about in the garden. Who was his wife? Adam and Eve Hide From God. These were things i highly cherished. It was part of the sad deception that the man and woman who wanted so much to be like God, rather than obtaining the stature of deity, are afraid even to commune with him. Instead, it encourages people to draw a distinction between what Scripture actually states and the inferences we make based on those statements, even if they are quite reasonable. Just a quick note: The verb used here in verse 8 to describe the divine movement of God mihalli (sorry, my keyboard isnt able to type this word out correctly) suggests iterative and habitual aspects. So they hid from the Lord God among the trees in the garden. Picture this. Maybe He was physically there throughout the short time that they were in the Garden, but I have my doubts., By a plain reading, Genesis 2:7 and 2:22c reasonably are inferred to imply that the place where God formed Adam, and then Eve, was a place some way *outside* of the garden (and this place likely being that of the shore of a river or a sea). Some people have inferred from this statement that they must have known what it sounded like to hear God walk in the Garden so they must have walked with Him before. 16 The Lord God commanded the man, saying, "From any tree of the garden you may eat freely; 17 but from the tree of the knowledge of good and . Whirlwinds dont speakunless it is God appearing in that form. When God said, Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat Adam knew what a tree was, what the garden was, and what eating was. To find out why God made you we have to look in the Bible. (Vs. 24 says He drove them out the he place Cherubims). Your entire post is irrelevant to the discussion because you are trying to show what it means when it says that someone walked with God. Yet now the man and the woman are hiding from God in fear. They got to take walks with him, check out the animals, enjoy the beau 1. They may have done that, and I wouldnt have any problem with it. In other words, man had a physical body made from the ground. The animals possess none of these characteristics, at least not to the same degree as man, so these seem like strong possibilities for what it means to be made in Gods image. Thanks for your thoughts. But I am very clear in the post that I have no problem with the notion that they might have walked with Him. Hi Robert, These factors make Adam, and subsequently Eve who was taken out of the man Adam, uniquely designed to perceive the presence of God, and descern His will. 6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. (Meditating upon God's Word makes it a consistent part of our daily . Mentions of Eden are also made in the Bible elsewhere in Genesis, in Isaiah 51:3, Ezekiel 36:35, and Joel 2:3; Zechariah 14 and Ezekiel 47 use paradisical imagery without naming Eden. Tim> However, that fact has very little to do with whether He walked with Adam and Eve in the garden. As I stated in the post and many times in the comments, I have no trouble believing that they walked with God; I have a problem with people claiming that the Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God, because it doesnt say this. never seen what GOD actually looks like. With that being said, I agree with you that it is reasonable to infer that He spent time with them, but the Bible does not imply that He did, and that was the point of this post. When He asked them why they hid they answered Him. Second, Eve was made from Adams rib (or more accurately side), indicating that they both had physical bodies (Genesis 2:21). Yes, Jesus is God and was in the beginning with God, but the part about the Word becoming flesh and dwelling among us (John 1:14) is a reference to the Incarnation that began when He was conceived in Marys womb. So comparing Adam and Eve to children who need to learn to talk, eat, etc. The term used to explain this and other episodes is anthropomorphism (human-forms). It also seems to assume that they were in the garden for quite a while when they almost certainly were not there for long at all. Conclusion. I think youve understood exactly what I was seeking to accomplish. Thats the one where I spend time talking about the ages of Cain and Abel. If strong wind is a better translation, then it would not be saying that God was walking in the garden, but instated that He was moving in the garden. I was scanning Gen 2&3 to use the text where God walked with Adam in the garden. The ESV accurately captures Adams response in verse 10. The adverbial phrase in the cool of the day (NIV, NASB, NJB) or the breezy time of the day (NJPS, NAB) translates the Hebrew phrase wind [rah] of the day. The NRSVs rendering makes the time more explicit, at the time of the evening breeze (also REB). But what comes to my mind is why would you choose this debated part to address the concern. But since God formed (literally squeezed into shape) Adam and breathed into his nostrils and removed one of his ribs and closed up the wound and walked in the garden and spoke to Adam and Eve (and then Cain later on) in a way they could easily understand, the assumption is unavoidable that God was physically there in tangible form. Randy Alcorn (@randyalcorn) is the author of over sixtybooks and the founder and director of Eternal Perspective Ministries. when they heard God walking in the garden, they hid from God. God goes to great lengths to explain how he wants the relationship to be. All the details of exactly how god walked with them are so plain to see that blind Freddy can see it. God appeared and revealed Himself in many different ways throughout the Old Testament. I would assume that they drank goats milk during this time as well. "And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden.". Gen 2:16-17. They could not walk in the garden naked anymore, and they had to defend their actions. 16 I also will do this unto you I will appoint unto you terror consumption burning ague that shall consume the eyes and cause sorrow of heart and you shall sow your seed in vain your enemies shall eat it17 and I will set my face against you 18 and if you still dont listen to Mei will punish you 7 times more for your sins please not that it is sin that seperates man from god. The chronology of the genealogy of the man is followed throughout the Bible. Part of the commission to rule over creation would have included the need to study it and figure things out. To add to the post above, another theological consideration is the temple. Here is a portion of what I wrote on page 72 of my book, Fallen. I think all conservative Christians would agree that this happened. 2. Thanks for the comment and for taking the time to read the post. Seems to me there was plenty of interaction & communication between Adam (& Perhaps Eve) and God. No human can view the full reality of God and . Now go to verse 17 Cain made love to his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. Adam and Eve said, 'Lord, when we were in the garden, You walked with us every day. However, I dont see how your final statement about the garden has any relevance. I know its there somewhere, isnt it? Tim please do a small word study on walking and when you do you will find that walking refers to a living relationship with the said persons mentioned . Who was Cain afraid of? We can speculate, contemplate, and imagine probable scenarios by referencing other relationships in the Bible, but in this day and time especially, we must be diligent and aware of the texts true contents. What was their relationship? I would agree with much of what you wrote, and I believe Ive stated as much in the article and follow up comments. Of course, since God is capable of making physical appearances. When I was young I remember the most favorites of things I would get for Christmas. If that suggestion is accurate, then it would have been a physical presence of God coming in judgment, similar to how He spoke from the whirlwind in Job. So if your standard were correct, then that same standard would itself have to be outright affirmed in the Bible. Later Israel recognized that God demanded holiness and obedience if he were to continue to walk among his people. Adam said, I heard the sound of you in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked, and I hid myself (Genesis 3:10, ESV). It doesn't come before, which furthers the notion that God would have been content with them being without clothes, at least provided they didn't eat from the Tree. Either way, prior to sin there was not a fractured relationship between God and man, but there certainly is as a result of sin. Gods presence is also noted by his walking in the camp and sanctuary of Israel. It is very possible that the angelic beings are also made in the image of God. So it seems there would have been little or no point for God to have EVER been in their presence in the manner that this idea assumes: actually relating to them in the ordinary manner in which one human normally would relate to one or more other humans. . Now we do not see You any more. may I use your illustration in a short story that I will submit for publication on a non-commercial website (perhaps only my own personal website, if I cannot find acceptance at a more widely viewed site)? But what did they actually hear that made them afraid? I agree that youre right to the extent that believers should be mindful to validate sermons, statements or stories from pastors. Awesome, you as a Dad leading his children, as the word instructs. He was with them when they were deceived by Satan. Thanks for reading and taking the time to share your thoughts. We did not know, nor trained ourselves to do that and now see our own child in the consequences. It was a choice that they both made in full knowledge of what was right and wrong. To say that life was good in the Garden of Eden would be an understatement. For more on the issue of Cains wife, see this article: https://answersingenesis.org/bible-characters/cain/cains-wife-who-was-she/. He knew good because he once served God; he then knew evil because he committed evil in his rebellion from the Father. God's presence is also noted by . Granted, Adam and Eve walking with God poses no theological problems, but my point here is that the strength (or better, weakness) of that particular argument is roughly the same. I am so happy to find your website. We must know that Eve and Adam's life in the Garden of Eden was beyond happy. Just because Adam and Eve had no sin they still were not privileged to seeing God in physical form. Say, for example, that they werent expelled from the Garden until they were 60+ or 70+ (or older). 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. Because the Bible never says that Adam and Eve walked with God. This is just another suposition made by humans who try to understand divinly inspired scripture with a flawed human mind. The impression given is one of God being there in an embodied form, performing surgery on the man, building Eve and then walking her to Adam. God told them to be fruitful and multiply. I to am searching regarding worship in OT times and wondered about Adam walking with God. Adam tried to put the blame on Eve, and Eve tried to put the blame on the serpent, but God was angry with all three of them! I never really gave it much thought that Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden.God can and does whatever He wants to do. Sorry for the delayed response. Thats the point of this post. But its an irrelevant point. This post isnt about whether they enjoyed fellowship with Him prior to sin and walked with Him in a metaphorical sense. What an absolute honor we have as human beings to be made in the image of the Creator and to be called to demonstrate who He is and what He is like. Never says that Adam and Eve to children who need to study it and figure out. 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